In the sixth edition of “THE DEBATE” I compare two point guards of today's NBA game, Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook. You can read “THE DEBATE: Pippen vs. Iguodala” here.
This is a very tough decision, it's a dead tie. You can make a valid point that makes one better than the other. Westbrook isn't as good from three-point rage as Rose, Westbrook finishes around the rim better sometimes. The two guards are not even in their primes yet, and they are already in my “Top 5 Point Guards” list. Both players can shoot too much, or they don't shoot enough. Westbrook has an easier time of getting shots off though, considering Rose doesn't have a Kevin Durant on his team. Both, Rose and Westbrook can shoot the ball, drive it, and make tough shots. It's a tie.
Westbrook wins the battle of the boards. It's quit simple, Rose can be aggressive on the boards, but not all the time. That's why Russell has him beat this time around. Derrick and Russell have amazing jumping ability which is why they are both good rebounding guards in their own right, but Westbrook is slightly better.
3) Ball Handling/Passing:
Derrick wins this one. When Russell learns to play under control at least 85% of the time, maybe it'll be a tie. Derrick and Russ both have high turnover numbers, but Westbrook sometimes acts like a wild ape that is on a sugar high sometimes. That's not a bad thing, but he hurts himself and his team with that play. Looking back at the Finals, Russell did lose control of the game, something a point guard shouldn't do. Granted Westbrook has had two eight assist per game averaged seasons, Rose is better at this aspect of the game.
Westbrook is the better defender, by far. Rose isn't a slouch, but I'd go as far as Gary Payton when comparing Westbrook's defense. Have you noticed it during the “friendly” matches? Steal after steal is what I keep seeing. Rose is a good defender, Westbrook is just better. Rose has improved his footwork though, which may be why Russell gets into foul trouble sometimes.
Rose has the advantage here, in my opinion. I just like Derrick's timing and jumping ability more than Russell's. Westbrook can block shots, but I've seen D-Rose block shots as well. With Russell Westbrook averaging 0.3 blocks per game, Derrick Rose currently averages 0.4 blocks a night. I know, 0.1 isn't that big of a deal. In Rose's third and fourth year alone, he has higher season high averages than Westbrook's.
While comparing Rose to other NBA point guards you can watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
It caught my eye, and I somewhat agree with Tim Legler on this one. I honestly believe that Russell and Derrick are twins when you compare the two players on the court. They have the same play style, they are the same age, both are exciting, what's not to like about them?
Rose wins, might be biased, but that's my take on it. Let me know what you think in the comments below.no comments
The Bulls have begun filling out the roster with guards such as Marco Belinelli, Kirk Hinrich and Marquis Teague. After consequently whiffing on other -- much better players in Courtney Lee and O.J. Mayo -- the Bulls seem to have turn their attention to another veteran guard. According to Michael Lee of The Washington Post, former (mainly) Wizard and Spur, Roger Mason Jr., has gauged interest from Bulls' GM, Gar Forman.
Lee writes, "Bringing back Roger Mason Jr., Maurice Evans or James Singleton also remains high on the Wizards' priority list, but the team already has depth at nearly every position. Mason is also not interested in signing another one-year deal at the league minimum, as he has the past two seasons, according to a source close to Mason. Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Chicago and the Los Angeles Lakers have also expressed interest in Mason."
This would abundantly batten down the hatches at the two-guard position for next season as Rip Hamilton, Marco Belinelli, (sometimes) Kirk Hinrich and maybe Jimmy Butler -- if he's not a three -- seem like a pretty formidable bunch. Now Roger Mason Jr.? Eh, I don't quite know how he fits. He's a little too skilled to be the eleventh or twelfth man on a non-championship caliber roster for now. The guys isn't beating out Rip or Marco, and Captain Kirk is actually better at the two at this stage of his career ... sooooo? Seems like a foolish move that practically pushes the team out of contention to nab F Malcolm Thomas. Thomas played for the Bulls' Summer League team and played well, very well in-fact.
Mason Jr. is a good player, a nice, solid, veteran wing that can shoot, score and facilitate a little. But like I said, not sure where he fits on the roster as is. You could make a case that he's the fifth guard in the rotation, but still, how much time does the fifth guard play? My gut tells me the Bulls are better off signing a big-man to clean up the minutes there.
We'll keep you updated on the situation at hand.
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ESPNChicago writes, "The Chicago Bulls will not match the Houston Rockets' three-year, $25.1 million offer toOmer Asik, the team announced via its website Tuesday morning. 'It was a difficult decision because Omer did a nice job for us,' Bulls general manager Gar Forman told the team's website Tuesday. 'Matching the offer for Omer could have put us in a difficult position going forward in trying to acquire high-level talent. We wish Omer good luck and continued success.' The deal that the Rockets structured would have meant the Bulls would have been on the hook for a cap hit of almost $15 million in the final year of the contract. The Bulls decided they did not want to absorb such a substantial penalty given their current cap situation. Asik averaged 3.1 points and 5.3 rebounds coming off the Bulls' bench. Meanwhile, the Bulls are finalizing deals for Marco Belinelli and Nazr Mohammed, according to a source familiar with the situation. The 6-foot-5 Belinelli, who is a former first-round pick (18th overall) by Golden State, averaged 11.8 points last season with the New Orleans Hornets. He is expected to sign for the bi-annual exception, which is just under $2 million."
So long, Omer! See you next year!
Here's a video highlighting Omer Asik's short career (with the Bulls):
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Brewer, a 6-foot-7 defensive-minded wing, is a great role player coming off of any bench in the NBA. He will presumably fill a backup shooting guard or small forward role. This is yet another stab in the Borough Brawl between the Knicks and Nets as both teams have been competing to see who can put together a better team.
Brewer's replacement on the Bulls' side of things is second-year pro Jimmy Butler. Butler played extremely well in the Vegas Summer League and seems to be a good fit behind Luol Deng or Rip Hamilton.
The Bulls non-guaranteed the remaining dollars left on Brewer's contract earlier this month.
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Jimmer Fredette getting paired up in the backcourt with Derrick Rose.
The author of the article, David Daniels, writes, "Ronnie Brewer and Kyle Korver are gone. Richard Hamilton was never the long-term answer, and neither is Kirk Hinrich. Chicago needs to find Derrick Rose a future backcourt partner. Fredette is a long-shot for the role, but he definitely has the potential to pull it off. And really, who else is a better, realistic option for the Bulls? Unless they blow up their roster, they’ll never find a truly lethal wing scorer. Right now, Jimmer isn't that guy, but he could be, and with D-Rose still out, they don’t have anything to lose if the price is right."
The addition of Jimmer alongside Derrick would be potent. Both compliment eachother very well. But, let's face it, Jimmer isn't a game-changing title contending caliber player, yet. He very well could end up becoming something similar to Steve Nash, Steph Curry, or Deron Williams. However, something tells me he's got Luke Ridnour written all over him. Which in reality, isn't all that bad. He can shoot the lights out of the ball and score in bunches. But at 6-foot-2, it's hard(er) to be an NBA shooting guard -- something he's more affective at than anything.
This is an intriguing idea and move. One that could be made if newly drafted Marquis Teague doesn't work out.
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ESPNChicago says, "The Chicago Bulls are finalizing details on a one-year deal for Marco Belinelli while also putting finishing touches on a deal that would bring Chicago native Nazr Mohammed to the Bulls, a source familiar with the situation told ESPNChicago.com's Nick Friedell. The team is also expected to decline to match the Houston Rockets' three-year, $25.1 million offer to Omer Asik, according to a source familiar with the situation. The deadline for that decision is Tuesday. The 6-foot-5 Belinelli, who is a former first-round pick (18th overall) by Golden State, averaged 11.8 points last season with the New Orleans Hornets. He is expected to sign for the bi-annual exception, which is just under $2 million. By using the bi-annual exception, the Bulls hard cap themselves at $74 million for the season. As ESPN salary cap expert Larry Coon has stated, the hard cap may preclude the Bulls from making any major in-season acquisitions. They will have to add minimum salaried players to fill out the roster."
What do you think of this move? We're really starting to see the roster fillout now. What else would you like to see added to the team?
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Nazr Mohammed Profile
With the news of the imminent signing of Nazr Mohammed, let’s take a look at how he can help the Bulls in 2012-13.
The 34 year-old Mohammed is a 14-year NBA vet from Chicago, IL. A first-round draft pick in 1998, Mohammed began his career in Philadelphia after coming over in a trade from Utah.
Career stats (Link to ESPN/NBA.COM)
Mohammed has been in the league for a while due to his ability to rebound the basketball. He’s dangerous offensively when it comes to put backs. His offensive rebound efficiency ratings are very, very good. This last year was his first year under 10 points per 40 minutes, but he’s usually at 16 points per 40, which is very good for a backup center. He’s a crafty veteran that can play serviceably for 6-8 minute stretches.
At 34, Mohammed doesn’t really move well, can’t jump and has poor hands. His diminishing athleticism has not hurt his rebounding totals, but they have hurt his ability to defend. He also has a really high foul rate, which would limit his ability to start, but he shouldn’t have to worry about that. He isn’t good at the line, but he doesn’t visit the stripe that often.
Think of Mohammed as playing a Kurt Thomas role for the team. He brings veteran leadership and all that, too. He’s similar to Kurt in limited mobility, inability to block shots, and a high foul rate. He’s dissimilar in that he cannot shoot from mid-range like Thomas can, and he’s a better rebound.
Mohammed is an NBA backup center. He’s done well enough to stick around for 14 years, and can be of use to a team like the Bulls. Bulls fans that are complaining about this signing need to realize that Mohammed won’t average more than 12-14 minutes per game. So, paying Mohammed the veteran’s minimum is fine with me. He’s not going to be Omer, but he also won’t cost $30 million in 2015.
Marco Radenkovich is the former Editor-in-Chief and founder of Horns to the Hardwood. He has also written for Scout.com’s Marquette University Basketball branch, Marquettehoops.com for four years, as well as multiple Chicago Cubs blogs. As a featured columnist, Marco will add advanced statistics to the team at HttH. He brings the passion of a 24 year-old Bulls fan in his articles. Marco resides in the Chicago suburbs. You can follow him at @mradenkovich.
After hearing that O.J. Mayo will be signing with the Dallas Mavericks, I still had hope for the Bulls' off-season. I just lost all of that hope or even thought of having a promising summer. Chicago has now signed Vladimire Radmanovic, and now possibly Darko Milicic, possibly one of the biggest draft busts ever in NBA history.
I don't see a clear image of where the team is wanting to go. It certainly isn't to the top the coming season. Maybe they are just wanting to look average for a year, and then amnesty Boozer, trade Noah for a high lottery pick, and then try to get a commitment out of Andrew Bynum to sign with Chicago?
Who knows, I wouldn't mind if that happens, but I would love for the team to do something sooner or later.
Signing older veterans is a always nice, but usually best when mixing in with younger starters or just a young team in general. Did anyone notice what happened with Rip Hamilton last year? He was going to help save Derrick and the team, instead he saved them by keeping the bench warm. I don't think he was signed to do that.
We needed a scoring two guard or a three point shooter in the draft. On draft day, the Bulls didn't make a move at all, didn't get extra picks in the second round, but they drafted a point guard! Yay, now we have Captain Kirk, Teague, and a bum ACL in Rose's knee. Things are looking up there. I have noticed Teague is exceptionally quick on the hardwood, but plays so out of control. I mean, watching a game at the park you would witness better I.Q. and less turnovers than what Teague has produced in the summer league games some far.
I was optimistic, not now. I need something to help me get through this season. Strap into the roller coaster Bulls fans, it'll be a long and rough ride to April and beyond.
T.J. Watson is a 16-year-old sports writer from Illinois. Watson, a huge Bulls fan, is an aspiring NBA coach or GM. T.J. is very well versed in the game of hoops and has sound knowledge.
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